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Good to read your reply, but I will comment here or there.

February 15, 2020 07:28AM avatar
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My understanding, based on what others have said, is that the new tone version is “deeper” than the old tone version... and that may be the case.... I had the original Golden microMAX, but the two 2nd versions I tried didn't seem to offer more dpth-of-detection.

However, the new tone version puts the tone response to conductivity out of order so to speak, in that nickels and smallish gold sound with the higher middle tone, and tabs sound off with the lower middle tone.

I would rather have the proper order. But that’s just me.... The original version had targets in a "proper order" but most often only provided a 3-Tone operation, and in most places, even with coins on-the-surface to no more than 1"-1½" deep, 10¢ and 25¢ coins sounded off in the lower Tone ID range.

I do agree with Monte about the confusion of tones with the Golden. With the 8” concentric, I was getting mostly mixed tone signals and deeper pull tabs were sounding off with a nice soft high tone... so you can imagine my disappointment every time I dug that soft sound.... I never used the stock 8" Concentric coil much, preferring the 7" Concentric on most Tesoro's most of the time (until they brought out the 6" Concentric, the one they labeled 5.75), but I use the thin-profile 6" Concentric only on a Tesoro since it came available. A slight edge back then with the 7" Concentric over the 8".

All that changed when I acquired the 7” widescan coil, and sent the Golden in to calibrate it to that coil. The false high tones on the deep tabs were corrected, the bottlecaps sounded with either a clear low tone or mixed low/middle low, and I could really hear four distinct tones! ... That's interesting because, most of the time, a Double-D coil falls short of performance on most Tesoro models. That's especially true if hunting in a site that is heavily litter with Iron Nails and other ferrous debris. Tesoro circuitry design seemed to hot get along all that well with a DD.

I know the widescan is not the favorite coil-type on this forum... I think it depends on the individual, the detector in use, and the site application and challenges. I've been using a Double-D (aka wide-scan) coil since 1971 .. on models that worked well with them for the task-at-hand. For a lot of my preferred sites, and also on my proffered detectors for those sites, I have favored a round Concentric coil simply because the detectors I used worked much better with a Concentric coil ... ... but I truly believe, based on my experience, that the 7” widescan and the Golden were made for each other.... Glad it works for you, but I tried a few on my Golden microMAX and hey didn't do well for me.

The only cost to this match up is depth. At most, I get 6” maybe 7” with good soil conditions, on a quarter, and 5” max with pennies and dimes, a little deeper with nickels and tabs. I know that the new tones Golden users are getting better depths... but for me, given that I am mostly searching parks and school yards.... the depth I see is plenty.... Tesoro's, as a whole, have never been great competitors in the 'depth' department. However, they have done very well when it came to performance in a lot of applications, especially trashier places or just handling most coins at a typical-range coin-depth.

By the way, I have only found two items of gold in my MD career, both with the Golden, both with the 7” widescan on the Golden, one giving a nice nickel lower middle tone, the other, a filigree style 14 ct. cross gave a mixed low (iron) to lower-middle tone - I dug that mixed signal thinking it might be a chain, boy was I surprised! ... When I was younger and healthier and could get around much better, and also lived in a very large populated location (the greater Portland Oregon metro area) I had a lot of great high-use activity areas back then that were very productive when it came to silver and gold jewelry. Just from typical Coin Hunting places I got 10-20 gold jewelry items per year. Add beaches and sports field and the like and the gold and silver count increased. Locations is a key.

I like the the 5.75” concentric on the Golden as well, it seems razor sharp with a very strong hit signal on coin size objects (but also on the little round peak off foil caps).... Yep, the 6" Concentric is all I use on a Tesoro these days.

But you do need to adjust the internal GB pot when you change coils, and I really don’t like disturbing the inner workings of the Golden beast.
... Very true with most Tesoro's, especially to get the Tone ID to work as best it can. I don't know why it wasn't properly offered with a user-controlled manual GB. Well, I know why, but it just didn't make sense to me.


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Good to read your reply, but I will comment here or there.

Monte 471 February 15, 2020 07:28AM

Tesoro's "multi-tone" models. There were some good ones.

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