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UtahRich, my week-delay follow-up.

October 29, 2020 11:05AM avatar
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Monte -

I think many are / were curious about the APEX. It will be interesting to see how it does as more folks get time behind the controls using it in the field.
I was "one of the curious" about the coming Apex, but it wasn't really due to the SMF operation. The main reason I was interested was because it has been quite a while for anything new and creative from Garrett in the land-based detector market, and because I had heard it was going to be 'different.' And because I was hoping for, and very gladly appreciated, that they might produce a more comfortable, lighter-weight detector. Important for this aging old guy who has been trimming the Detector Team to units that let me stay in-the-game.

Also, I was very interested in the selectable frequency options and that it had Iron Audio Volume control. One 'problem' we might have as we look for more comments about it, is that I think a ot of new-comers purchase lower-cost detectors, and then the more active hobbyists look to spend bigger bucks on what we might consider the higher-end. Thus, models like the Anfibio or Equinox and other up around $800 get more attention than those models closer to the $500 to $600 mark. Another example is the White's MX-7. A lot of detector in a comfortable package ... but 'mid-priced' as we see things today and, I believe, overlooked.

There have been a lot of very good detectors that can work just fine for the majority of Active Hobbyists to Avid Detectorists out there that fall in a mid-level price ... or less. They are or have been overlooked, and I think some will not consider the Apex. partly due to some videos when there is an expressed or, for some viewers, n unseen bias involved. I'll refer to Calabash Diggers recent videos where he borrowed an Apex and then bought an Apex and bought a Simplex + just to do a few videos against his favorite Equinox 800 and even a Vanquish by the same maker.

The videos seemed to prove a point he was trying to make, that in his ground and with the settings used, on his buried 10" dime, they didn't provide the depth-of-detection. That was really all his intent was, and then he listed the newly purchased detectors for sale, just satisfied with his Equinox. He dded a bit of negative lip-service about the Apex and the manufacturer and all his other products, thus viewers could have been left with a negative feeling about the Apex.

That only touched on one topic, however, and I know a detector has a lot more things I would like to see it do other than just beep on a 10" dime. Thus his videos didn't have much impact on me because I have been working on this multi-model detector review of models folks can purchase brand new for $550 or less. That includes my Multi-IQ Vanquish 540 and the results (should be posted by the weekend) are a bit interesting, especially regarding a model that only had one search coil available. Although Andrew's post of new coils coming is partly good news, we just need a smaller-size coil.


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It isn't Garrett's flagship, but I imagine it will take over top dog in their Ace series of detector.
The Apex wasn't intended as a 'flagship' and really shouldn't have been lumped into the 'Ace' series. It definitely isn't. The Apex should be a separate 'series' for Garrett to build upon, and I am certain they are working on a new 'lagship' offering.


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I haven't seen mention yet of accessory coils. Looking at Garrett's accessory line for their other models, I think it will be options will be available sooner than later..
As Andrew posted, they are coming.


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With the recent turn of events with Garrett purchasing the intellectual properties of White's Electronics, they may have given themselves a serious boost up in their progress in the SMF world.
I just hope they do not try to re-introduce anything with a White's brand name. Just take advantage of the 'recipe book' they purchased and cook up something new and attractive to the Garrett brand line.


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As for Nokta / Makro, I know they've intended to join the Simultaneous Multi-Frequency market. I imagine the challenges of SMF are significant or everybody would already have offerings.
There is no doubt in my mind that Nokta / Makro is going to bring out a very competitive SMF detector, and from most of the model experiences I've enjoyed, it will be well-built, performance-based, and very reasonably priced.

Monte

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Subject Author Views Posted

How's My Apex ?

UtahRich 75 October 22, 2020 01:23AM

Falsing - Question about a Search coil cable / connector -

UtahRich 34 November 02, 2020 10:52PM

APEX headed to Garrett

UtahRich 44 November 06, 2020 11:07PM

Re: APEX headed to Garrett thumbs up

EL NINO 40 November 07, 2020 05:26AM

Further thoughts on the APEX -

UtahRich 37 November 07, 2020 07:13PM

Apex back in hand

UtahRich 29 November 09, 2020 09:54PM

Rich, I am not surprised. A very caring company, for sure.

Monte 25 November 10, 2020 12:42AM

So What Now?

UtahRich 27 November 10, 2020 04:43AM

Yes, different or distant locations, and shorter daylight hours, too.

Monte 23 November 10, 2020 07:13AM

Very Huntable at the House today Attachments

UtahRich 33 November 10, 2020 02:16PM

Re: Apex back in hand

D&P-OR 24 November 09, 2020 10:22PM

Re: APEX headed to Garrett thumbs up

Timbertodd 31 November 07, 2020 10:54AM

Rich, I liked your comments about the new Garrett Apex.thumbs up

Monte 58 October 22, 2020 09:49AM

The Garrett Apex.

UtahRich 50 October 22, 2020 04:08PM

UtahRich, my week-delay follow-up.

Monte 40 October 29, 2020 11:05AM

Re: The Garrett Apex.

jmaryt 45 October 22, 2020 06:31PM

A Sharp Stick...

OregonGregg 66 October 22, 2020 06:37AM

Comfortable Shoes -

UtahRich 39 October 22, 2020 03:52PM



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