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Re: Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

February 13, 2020 10:37AM
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Monte
Here we might differ a bit. I've owned and used several Minelab Sovereigns and 6 or 7 Explorer-series models, plus I've had both of the more limited frequency-count models from Fisher and White's. They could do what they could do, and that was fine. But I'll use them, like I will the Vanquish that I am really liking, in the sites where they can work okay and I can benefit from what they provide in performance.

But at the same time, I've been hunting highly mineralized environments for over half-a-century, and made in-the-field comparisons with my own units as well as done some side-by-side work with friends using their favorite SMF, only to find that there are many times when my single-frequency models excel.

Yes, there are times an M-F detector can work just fine, and no argument with regard to the Vanquish ... except for the times when they don't. Dense iron contaminated sites or on a 'stash' of hidden silver coins. You can check that with the EQ-800 and Vanquish using 5 Silver Halves on top of a Silver Dollar, or 2-Silver Half-Dollars on top of 2-Silver Dollars. All uncarded and making bare contact. Multi-IQ isn't always great, nor are some of the single-frequency offerings that struggle with those two test set-ups..

I do agree with most of what you said, however I think we can agree that on a salt water beach a single frequency machine is far from the performance of multi-frequency.

In regards to the Sovereigns, Explorers, e-Trac, CTX in mineralized dirt, yes I agree in a lot of cases a single frequency will excel over them especially in heavy mineralization. However with the new Multi-IQ in the Equinox and Vanquish I've made many comparisons with single frequency machines such as the Impact, Kruzer, Racer, Whites MX7, AT Pro, Deus, Fisher F19, Teknetics T2, etc where they all ID the deep target as iron or ID is very erratic, making it impossible to know what's below the coil. I also find that many single frequency machines have a tendency to ID deep iron as a good target only to find it's iron when you dig it up. The Equinox however tends to lock onto a number or have an average when the ID is jumpy that is fairly accurate.

Generally speaking as a target gets deeper the minerals in the ground start to consume the target making ID difficult until finally all the detector sees is iron. Faster recovery on single frequency machines like the Dues make it possible to work heavy mineralized dirt like Culpeper, VA when faster recovery speeds are selected. But the trade of is loss of depth. Since 75% of my sites are plowed fields or pasture with targets all the way from surface to 14" deep, the Equinox or Minelab GPX (for final cleanup) are my detectors of choice.

Totally agree on you in regards to hunting iron trash and coin caches, multi-IQ suffers in those areas. If I'm hunting a trashy ghost town I might try the Equinox for a while but almost always switch over to my Deus or F19. The Equinox will excel in iron trash in one area though, and that's it's ability to see small or low conductive items such as small buttons and small gold coins. No one detector will cover every scenario, It's all site dependent in the end, best tool for the job, keep the tool shed well stocked for every occasion.
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Out for a bit of evaluation and Coin Hunting unit adjustment.

Monte 68 February 11, 2020 07:28AM

Update on my progress ... Going to check a 'Manufacturer Glitch' today.

Monte 30 February 14, 2020 09:16AM

Who Are You! ? And what have you done with the REAL MONTE ?. N/T

UtahRich 33 February 11, 2020 04:49PM

Re: Who Are You! ? And what have you done with the REAL MONTE ?.

OregonGregg 36 February 14, 2020 08:05AM

Favorite types of Pie ?

UtahRich 30 February 14, 2020 09:47AM

Re: Out for a bit of evaluation and Coin Hunting unit adjustment.

diggindeep 40 February 11, 2020 11:25AM

Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

Monte 44 February 13, 2020 09:14AM

Re: Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

jmaryt 36 February 13, 2020 12:53PM

If I'm enjoying a detector and finding stuff ... that's 'FUN.' thumbs up N/T

Monte 23 February 13, 2020 01:13PM

I enjoy myself not finding stuff smiling smiley N/T

glabelle 25 February 13, 2020 01:22PM

Yes, just getting out detecting can be fun.

Monte 25 February 14, 2020 04:12AM

Re: Yes, just getting out detecting can be fun.

jmaryt 22 February 14, 2020 04:21PM

Funny you should mention that

UtahRich 25 February 13, 2020 11:55PM

Re: Funny you should mention that. Exactly Rich

Kickindirt 20 February 14, 2020 01:42AM

Re: Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

diggindeep 33 February 13, 2020 10:37AM

Back to you, sharing our opinions and experiences.

Monte 24 February 13, 2020 02:12PM

Re: Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

glabelle 27 February 13, 2020 01:21PM

But I used a single-freqquency detector to accomplish the same thing. N/T

Monte 18 February 13, 2020 02:16PM

The detector of choice is

UtahRich 28 February 14, 2020 12:08AM

Re: The detector of choice is

diggindeep 30 February 14, 2020 10:24AM

Re: The detector of choice is

glabelle 30 February 14, 2020 10:53AM

Passing thoughts and personal experiences from afield.

Monte 29 February 15, 2020 01:10PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

Kickindirt 28 February 14, 2020 08:22PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

glabelle 34 February 15, 2020 08:33AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

Kickindirt 25 February 15, 2020 12:31PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

glabelle 27 February 15, 2020 01:30PM

A Little Help From Your Friends . . .

UtahRich 31 February 15, 2020 05:47PM

A Little Help From Your Friends . . .but ya wasn't there to help.

OregonGregg 30 February 16, 2020 09:16AM

Hey, Rich. I wasn't that harsh, just wondering.confused smiley

Monte 28 February 16, 2020 08:34AM

Re: Hey, Rich. I wasn't that harsh, just wondering.confused smiley

glabelle 21 February 16, 2020 10:26AM

George, I put up another post to continue this discussion:

Monte 20 February 16, 2020 11:06AM

Re: A Little Help From Your Friends . . .

glabelle 23 February 15, 2020 08:56PM

Re: A Little Help From Your Friends . . .

Kickindirt 19 February 15, 2020 09:19PM

Re: A Little Help From Your Friends . . .

Remfire 20 February 15, 2020 08:33PM

You said: "I got it because it may be great for GT hunting."

Monte 23 February 15, 2020 02:04PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

jmaryt 30 February 15, 2020 10:03AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

OregonGregg 21 February 15, 2020 09:33AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

jmaryt 29 February 15, 2020 10:07AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

OregonGregg 19 February 15, 2020 06:25PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

jmaryt 24 February 16, 2020 10:15PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

glabelle 23 February 15, 2020 10:02AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

OregonGregg 22 February 15, 2020 01:14PM

Re: Out for a bit of evaluation and Coin Hunting unit adjustment.

Kickindirt 40 February 11, 2020 09:48AM

Yes, a new 'toy' that isn't a bad pick for many uses.

Monte 36 February 13, 2020 07:14AM

Oh, the horror! eye popping smiley And some testing Attachments

glabelle 40 February 11, 2020 09:10AM

"Oh, the horror! eye popping smiley " ... Yes, 'testing' in both environments gets interesting.

Monte 32 February 12, 2020 09:53AM

Re: "Oh, the horror! eye popping smiley " ... Yes, 'testing' in both environments gets interesting.

Kickindirt 24 February 12, 2020 02:10PM

Joel, I'll get a picture up, and you can test it on the WTHO, too! N/T

Monte 22 February 13, 2020 06:27AM

Re: "Oh, the horror! eye popping smiley " ... Yes, 'testing' in both environments gets interesting.

glabelle 23 February 12, 2020 12:12PM



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