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Re: Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

February 13, 2020 09:37AM
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Monte
Here we might differ a bit. I've owned and used several Minelab Sovereigns and 6 or 7 Explorer-series models, plus I've had both of the more limited frequency-count models from Fisher and White's. They could do what they could do, and that was fine. But I'll use them, like I will the Vanquish that I am really liking, in the sites where they can work okay and I can benefit from what they provide in performance.

But at the same time, I've been hunting highly mineralized environments for over half-a-century, and made in-the-field comparisons with my own units as well as done some side-by-side work with friends using their favorite SMF, only to find that there are many times when my single-frequency models excel.

Yes, there are times an M-F detector can work just fine, and no argument with regard to the Vanquish ... except for the times when they don't. Dense iron contaminated sites or on a 'stash' of hidden silver coins. You can check that with the EQ-800 and Vanquish using 5 Silver Halves on top of a Silver Dollar, or 2-Silver Half-Dollars on top of 2-Silver Dollars. All uncarded and making bare contact. Multi-IQ isn't always great, nor are some of the single-frequency offerings that struggle with those two test set-ups..

I do agree with most of what you said, however I think we can agree that on a salt water beach a single frequency machine is far from the performance of multi-frequency.

In regards to the Sovereigns, Explorers, e-Trac, CTX in mineralized dirt, yes I agree in a lot of cases a single frequency will excel over them especially in heavy mineralization. However with the new Multi-IQ in the Equinox and Vanquish I've made many comparisons with single frequency machines such as the Impact, Kruzer, Racer, Whites MX7, AT Pro, Deus, Fisher F19, Teknetics T2, etc where they all ID the deep target as iron or ID is very erratic, making it impossible to know what's below the coil. I also find that many single frequency machines have a tendency to ID deep iron as a good target only to find it's iron when you dig it up. The Equinox however tends to lock onto a number or have an average when the ID is jumpy that is fairly accurate.

Generally speaking as a target gets deeper the minerals in the ground start to consume the target making ID difficult until finally all the detector sees is iron. Faster recovery on single frequency machines like the Dues make it possible to work heavy mineralized dirt like Culpeper, VA when faster recovery speeds are selected. But the trade of is loss of depth. Since 75% of my sites are plowed fields or pasture with targets all the way from surface to 14" deep, the Equinox or Minelab GPX (for final cleanup) are my detectors of choice.

Totally agree on you in regards to hunting iron trash and coin caches, multi-IQ suffers in those areas. If I'm hunting a trashy ghost town I might try the Equinox for a while but almost always switch over to my Deus or F19. The Equinox will excel in iron trash in one area though, and that's it's ability to see small or low conductive items such as small buttons and small gold coins. No one detector will cover every scenario, It's all site dependent in the end, best tool for the job, keep the tool shed well stocked for every occasion.
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Out for a bit of evaluation and Coin Hunting unit adjustment.

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Who Are You! ? And what have you done with the REAL MONTE ?. N/T

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Re: Who Are You! ? And what have you done with the REAL MONTE ?.

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Re: Out for a bit of evaluation and Coin Hunting unit adjustment.

diggindeep 200 February 11, 2020 10:25AM

Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

Monte 216 February 13, 2020 08:14AM

Re: Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

jmaryt 207 February 13, 2020 11:53AM

If I'm enjoying a detector and finding stuff ... that's 'FUN.' thumbs up N/T

Monte 177 February 13, 2020 12:13PM

I enjoy myself not finding stuff smiling smiley N/T

glabelle 182 February 13, 2020 12:22PM

Yes, just getting out detecting can be fun.

Monte 175 February 14, 2020 03:12AM

Re: Yes, just getting out detecting can be fun.

jmaryt 158 February 14, 2020 03:21PM

Funny you should mention that

UtahRich 170 February 13, 2020 10:55PM

Re: Funny you should mention that. Exactly Rich

Kickindirt 159 February 14, 2020 12:42AM

Re: Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

diggindeep 184 February 13, 2020 09:37AM

Back to you, sharing our opinions and experiences.

Monte 173 February 13, 2020 01:12PM

Re: Comparing thoughts about the Vanquish.thinking

glabelle 181 February 13, 2020 12:21PM

But I used a single-freqquency detector to accomplish the same thing. N/T

Monte 166 February 13, 2020 01:16PM

The detector of choice is

UtahRich 185 February 13, 2020 11:08PM

Re: The detector of choice is

diggindeep 188 February 14, 2020 09:24AM

Re: The detector of choice is

glabelle 174 February 14, 2020 09:53AM

Passing thoughts and personal experiences from afield.

Monte 196 February 15, 2020 12:10PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

Kickindirt 177 February 14, 2020 07:22PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

glabelle 204 February 15, 2020 07:33AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

Kickindirt 175 February 15, 2020 11:31AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

glabelle 162 February 15, 2020 12:30PM

A Little Help From Your Friends . . .

UtahRich 182 February 15, 2020 04:47PM

A Little Help From Your Friends . . .but ya wasn't there to help.

OregonGregg 203 February 16, 2020 08:16AM

Hey, Rich. I wasn't that harsh, just wondering.confused smiley

Monte 161 February 16, 2020 07:34AM

Re: Hey, Rich. I wasn't that harsh, just wondering.confused smiley

glabelle 154 February 16, 2020 09:26AM

George, I put up another post to continue this discussion:

Monte 157 February 16, 2020 10:06AM

Re: A Little Help From Your Friends . . .

glabelle 167 February 15, 2020 07:56PM

Re: A Little Help From Your Friends . . .

Kickindirt 154 February 15, 2020 08:19PM

Re: A Little Help From Your Friends . . .

Remfire 157 February 15, 2020 07:33PM

You said: "I got it because it may be great for GT hunting."

Monte 199 February 15, 2020 01:04PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

jmaryt 190 February 15, 2020 09:03AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

OregonGregg 157 February 15, 2020 08:33AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

jmaryt 170 February 15, 2020 09:07AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

OregonGregg 159 February 15, 2020 05:25PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

jmaryt 168 February 16, 2020 09:15PM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

glabelle 191 February 15, 2020 09:02AM

Re: The detector of choice is atgold??

OregonGregg 165 February 15, 2020 12:14PM

Re: Out for a bit of evaluation and Coin Hunting unit adjustment.

Kickindirt 191 February 11, 2020 08:48AM

Yes, a new 'toy' that isn't a bad pick for many uses.

Monte 209 February 13, 2020 06:14AM

Oh, the horror! eye popping smiley And some testing Attachments

glabelle 199 February 11, 2020 08:10AM

"Oh, the horror! eye popping smiley " ... Yes, 'testing' in both environments gets interesting.

Monte 172 February 12, 2020 08:53AM

Re: "Oh, the horror! eye popping smiley " ... Yes, 'testing' in both environments gets interesting.

Kickindirt 161 February 12, 2020 01:10PM

Joel, I'll get a picture up, and you can test it on the WTHO, too! N/T

Monte 184 February 13, 2020 05:27AM

Re: "Oh, the horror! eye popping smiley " ... Yes, 'testing' in both environments gets interesting.

glabelle 162 February 12, 2020 11:12AM



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