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April 28, 2019 04:06PM avatar
Well the 9" they centered it and is well balanced. The 9x5 they actually moved it towards back. But its so lightweight it would be impossible to unbalance it.
I guess I'll have to see. I have enough problems with my own balance, and I have always been critical of anything that doesn't balance well for me when it comes to detectors.

Ive done a couple vids of the LF and HF 9" coil on the nailboard test with my extremely oversized rusty square nails. It passes with ease. The one direction that it does struggle slightly if you just turn even a couple degree in pulls it right in.]/b]
Which route number and sweeping which direction? Left-to-right or right-to-left? Following the exact routes, with the search coil center axis following the lined route, and sweeping completely across the Nail Board and not just doing a short 'wiggle,' how many worthy hits can you get out of 8 possible?

Monte post some pics of this button. Id like to try and recreate this test. Sounds fun. Seems like a easy test for the Xp. I say that for one reason. The deus is the best button finder ive ever used. It will even pick out those buttons that are mostly iron and rusty with the slightest bit of ferrous metal content. Reminds me of a time when i was hunting Cobre. I started out using the racer2 with the nel snake. Hunted a few hours along side the road in a small area that had lots of glass that i thought would of had some potential finds. Didnt hardly have any good signals with the R2. Went and grabbed the deus and went back over the same area. Was like a new site. I was able to pull like 5 or 6 old buttons out of the same area. That was with the standard 9" coil.
I'll try to get a good photo of the Button- Front & Iron Nail, but remember, it is only the thin metal button front piece, and it is thin metal and the same diameter as a US 1¢ coin, and I don't mean a large Cent, either. You can't use a larger-size button front as that is easier for many detectors to hit on, but if it is the same size, that would be different and more of a challenge.

I know the XP can do OK in iron nail contamination, but so can quite a few detectors, but so far most coil sizes and types mounted on any make or model will struggle to get just 2 hits out of 4, with many giving 0 hits out of 4. It will be interesting to see how an XP will handle the test at all three Discrimination settings.

Deus had been out for years and these batteries have held up to the test of time. This is a non issue with these machines. Its not even a question its FACT.
Alkaline batteries have improved quite a bit over the years so I don't doubt they have improved the rechargeable Lithium batteries as well. But for me it is the fact that 3 batteries are going to add to the overall weight and balance, coupled with the need to monitor three batteries and have to charge the batteries at proper intervals. Really tough when I am not all that partial to down-time to charge batteries.

I know its hard to realize or visualize but Xp doesnt need to. The Hf 9x5 is already better in separation and depth when compared to most machines with sniper coils equipped. Monte if you can give the Xp deus or ORX a fair shake with the 9x5 coil on you will hear and see a noticeable difference when hunting in thick iron. Actually the difference will be so noticeable that you will start swinging with one machine and then put it away and grab the Xp. Of course you will have to get to know the Xp a bit before. Well actually you have a pretty well tuned ear it prob wont take you near as long as most. Im a big fan of all machines and what i say doesnt take away how good others are. We all know some others still do well in the iron too. Alls im saying is once you have you ear tuned to the Xps audio its easy to forget about the other machines. I say quit torturing your self and get one Monte.

Man i just pumped myself up about swinging the Xp in the iron, im definitely going swing in the iron soon. These Xp machines just simply love unlocking finds. Heres a good example. At one of the group hunts last year. I took Ryans MMK with 5" DD that had your personal settings saved in it. Gridded off a 8ft x 8ft area. MMK pulled a nice sheep ear tag. Then i grabbed Ryans Xp deus with 9x5 Hf coil. Set it to my fav settings. Hit that same 8ft x 8ft area. Guess what the Xp found in the same area. A 1854 seated dime. Could i have missed it with the MMK sure. But i actually gridded it more 3 ways with the MMK and only one direction with the Xp. Could of still missed it tho. Hell idk could just mean that im better with the deus. I will say i really liked the MMK audio. Was like running my old Racer2 with cleaner better audio. Seemed a tad faster too.

This post is way to long over and OUT!!
I'll be glad to give an XP, preferably an ORX, ample time to prove itself at 'separation' especially at the two regular Disc. settings I usually operate at. I know what th Makro Multi-Kruzer, Anfibio Multi, Impact and Racer 2 can do, as well as many other current models. The Teknetics T2+ is a faster model for response and recovery on close accepted targets, even than my favorite CoRe and Relic, but it falls short on recovery and response once Discrimination is in use.

Hopefully I'll get to see what it can do in just a couple of week. Less, actually, as we'll be wrapping up the 10th WTHO on the 12th which is just two weeks from today.


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Last year Bought Deus Ver. 5 X35 9" coil & MI6....thinking

Druid 112 April 23, 2019 05:41PM

Re: Last year Bought Deus Ver. 5 X35 9" coil & MI6....thinking

Kickindirt 83 April 23, 2019 08:41PM

What Next ?

UtahRich 85 April 23, 2019 06:38PM

Re: What Next ?

Druid 90 April 24, 2019 11:29AM

Re: What Next ?

Kickindirt 73 April 24, 2019 08:36PM

And if I had an XP ORX and only 1 search coil ....

Monte 85 April 24, 2019 08:41PM

Re: And if I had an XP ORX and only 1 search coil ....

Kickindirt 74 April 24, 2019 10:22PM

thinking And lack of a desired search coil can make a difference.thinking

Monte 108 April 27, 2019 11:50AM

Re: thinking And lack of a desired search coil can make a difference.thinking

Kickindirt 70 April 27, 2019 11:27PM

I fixed your post, now I'll add my replies.

Monte 92 April 28, 2019 04:06PM

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