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An interesting view, Rich, but look at it my way.

May 05, 2021 10:56AM avatar
Hang on there Monte!

Doing the Math here. 4 Apex detectors each with a pair of rechargeable headphones (4) synched to the detector comes to 8 devices to make sure they are charged before going into the field.

Let's start with what I am using, a total of THREE (3) Apex devices, with each one sporting a different search coil. The 4th Apex is on-hand only as a 'loaner-unit'. So, for me and my needs, based on the site I plan to hunt, I'm only using 3 Apex units.

Each of my 3 Apex outfits does have it's own MS-3 wireless headphones to charge, and each has their own AT Pinpointer w/Z-Lynk so I can hear the Pinpointer in my headphones, but those are 9-V battery powered.

When I set out for a day of hunting, like I'll be doing shortly, I am only taking my main-use Apex with my 'Ripper' 5X8 DD coil mounted. The other two Apex models are home unless I plan to go hunt a wide-open plowed field or beach, etc. to use the bigger 'Raider' coil, or want to use a TID / Tone ID model in a very densely littered site in which case I grab Apex #3 w/5" DD NEL coil.

Thus, when I set out shortly I will be taking my #1 Apex w/'Ripper' coil and wireless Headphones so I have 1-Detector and 2-Charged-up items in my outfit.

Compared to 3 XP ORX detectors, (3 controllers and 3 coils and 3 headphones) for a total of 9 devices to make sure they are charged before going into the field.

I always take a Pinpointer, and had the ML-6 XP Pinpointer with my ORX devices so I could hear it i my headphones, and it also needed to be charged up. So, let's say you set out to join me in a day of detecting, and like me you were only taking one detector, one similar-size coil, and one Pinpointer. What would you maybe have?

1-XP ORX / Deus that needed a Controller charged, 1-5X9½ DD HF search coil, that also had to be charged, plus 1-set of wireless Headphones that need to be charged up, and 1 Pinpointer that also needed a little outlet time to be charged up.

, you got me Monte, 8 is less than 9. I guess that argument stands. thinking. Barely.


So I would have 1-Detector + 1-Headphones to be charged = 2 components, while you would have 1-Detector Controller, + 1-Coil + 1-Headphones + 1-Pinpointer and that = 4 rechargeable parts, and that means I only have 50% of the pre-charged devices you would.

Then factor in this. My Garrett Apex, each of them I have noted, provide me a very decent run-time on a full charge. Not counting the headphones, your set-up calls for Controller to be charged as well as a search Coil, and we all know those search coils tend to drain power at a faster rate than does the control unit.

Now, don't get me wrong. I do like the ORX and 5X9½ HF coil and their performance in a lot of tough sites, but I just do not care for the multi-rechargeable package set-up Thus, in the end, you are satisfied with what you use and I am satisfied with what I use, and in both cases the power companies are going to get a teeny-tiny amount of business keeping our outfits in operating condition.


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Subject Author Views Posted

More gold with the Deus Attachments

DirtDigger 640 May 01, 2021 11:46PM

Re: More gold with the Deus

Timbertodd 326 May 02, 2021 08:35PM

Re: More gold with the Deus

Kickindirt 338 May 02, 2021 06:53PM

ORX loves it even more. N/T

WM6 485 May 03, 2021 08:10AM

Of those two models, the ORX is my favorite.thumbs up

Monte 374 May 03, 2021 12:05PM

Over Charging. grinning smiley

UtahRich 380 May 04, 2021 09:15PM

An interesting view, Rich, but look at it my way.

Monte 350 May 05, 2021 10:56AM

thumbs up N/T

UtahRich 302 May 05, 2021 05:40PM

Re: Over Charging. grinning smiley Attachments

Kickindirt 494 May 05, 2021 12:17AM

The rationale was my point

UtahRich 354 May 05, 2021 11:44AM

No nightmare for me, Rich, ... And I agree about 'simplicity.'

Monte 338 May 06, 2021 12:26AM

Re: The rationale was my point

Kickindirt 341 May 05, 2021 01:29PM

OK All you Richards

Remfire 338 May 05, 2021 03:03PM

All you Richards

UtahRich 354 May 05, 2021 05:37PM

Re: Over Charging. grinning smiley

jmaryt 341 May 05, 2021 07:32AM

Re: More gold with the Deus

OregonGregg 330 May 03, 2021 07:06AM

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