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Sodbuster
Watching this video was really interesting.

Yes, like many I have seen by various posters it almost raises more questions than it does answer some. I am sure the XP folks, if they watch it, are going to be sending him an XP Deus II hat to replace the Nokta / Makro Simplex + cap he was wearing.

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The sweep speed and "bouncing around - here and there" coverage is not what I've ever done with any of the machines I use or have used. Is this the normal sweep for the Deus 2?

I agree with you about the "bouncing around - here and there" search technique he used. In many places I hunt that have sagebrush or other vegetation or building rubble you have to move around, and when I get into some of it I also use a "scribble technique" but that's while standing in one spot and using a smaller-size search coil for better coverage and unmasking.

As for 'sweep speed', that gets to be an interesting topic in its own with most detectors we use. Having put in some hunt-time with the XP ORX, mainly with the 5X9½ HF mid-size coil, you can get away with what I would call a 'faster-than-normal' sweep speed, and quite often the detector can still perform reasonably well. There are several other detectors on the market these days that can still handle using a little faster sweep speed, but that being said, my personal preference is to use a slow-to-moderate search coil sweep speed.

In addition, since the summer of '68, I have favored smaller-size search coils to better handle working in and around brush, rocks, rubble and all sorts of masking trash targets. To this day I still like to have most of my detectors outfitted with a smaller-size coil for most hunting tasks or, for lesser-littered places, I like a good mid-size coil. That's why I like the 5X9½ HF elliptical DD coil on the ORX, and one thing I do wish XP would do is offer a smaller-size search coil for the Deus / ORX as well as the new Deus II.

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Targets being recovered are shallow on this video, and not much that isn't recent drops is that shallow around here.

Depth, Depth, Depth seems to be one of the often uttered words we hear from folks, but after watching many, many videos, day and night, from many detector brands being used or tested, I still feel that most quality detectors with comparable-size coils, are very competitive on most of the located targets being recovered.

I've only been hunting parking strips since '65, and I work many of them multiple times. We can all miss a good target from time-to-time. However, to say you have hunted the same parking strip many times with different detectors, and then claim some new-fangled model with a 9" DD coil deserves all the credit for hitting on a 2" deep Indian Head Cent is almost comical. Instead of crediting a new detector & coil, maybe a simple 'Ooops!' comment could have been used, such as 'Well, I guess I missed that one.' or maybe 'There's a coin I might not have put a coil over!'

And there were many other good-sounding targets are easily shallow depths that perhaps should have been found from prior searches ... unless he was "bouncing around" and simply didn't encounter them before.

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I'm interested to see how well D-2 unmasks compared to EQ in side-by-side comparison. What's the learning curve on the tones with the Deus?

What I would like to see in any good videos, that are not purposely canted one way or the other, is some on-the-spot, side-by-side comparisons with one or more other detectors, using comparable search coils and settings. That would let us hear the audio differences between units. I know that on our WTHO's I have enjoyed comparing one or more of the detectors I use against a make and model someone else has on something they, or I, have located. For me those can be more 'educational' because we are most often working a site with an ample amount of good-target masking trash.

I hope to do just that in June on our next Welcome-to-Hunt Outing when, maybe, we will have one or more attend who have a new Deus II. Any other make or model will also be informative, but the new products will grab my attention.

Monte

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