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Re: New Detectors, here and coming soon, means it's evaluation time.

May 31, 2019 07:17AM
Gregg, you said earlier:

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I agree, even though not actually owning a Nox 800, I have hunted aside them and from my observations, it would not be my first choice to hunt the old iron/rusted tin infested ghost towns. On the release of the Nox 800 a lot of hype followed and a lot of people fell for that hype. It has its place, but an iron/infested with rusted tin pieces is not one of them. There are better offerings to deal with those types of environments. gregg

And yes, I assumed you were saying the FC was your 'first choice' since that was your main machine.

I was not upset in the least, just wanted to know why you thought your machine was better than the Nox. I also stated "honest question", since, even though the Nox is new to me, I've done quite a bit of testing - particularly in the area of iron separation, and found it to perform as well as any other machine that I've seen. Filtering through your response, I grabbed a few tidbits that you mentioned:

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The Fors Core just happens to be a 15kHz machine...................I never have stated in a post that 15kHz is absolute best freq to use. gregg

That is not what I asked. I asked what made it better than any other 15KHz machine. A few of your answers:

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I like the Nokta/Makro machines because of their unmasking abilities.

They work better because of circuitry design, coil selection etc etc.

It can perform better than a lot of machines operating at different freq, rather its one freq at a time or a mess of freq running simultaneously.

gregg

A "mess" of frequencies???

Realize that the FC has been out for 5 years now, the Equinox only 1 yr. In fact last year, before the Nevada hunt, I could not even buy an 800 and settled for a 600. I also could not buy a 6" coil, as they weren't even in production yet! That is crucial to ghost town hunting. I therefore ended up using the Nokta Impact (new to me, no experience) and my trusty MXT the last day, when I thought a change to a familiar machine might help. But as said, you have to pass your coil over a target to find it! Point being, the Nox has some time on it now, and maybe you compared it when it first came out with an 11" coil, and with a non experienced user? (asking, not assuming smiling smiley ) Besides the 6" coil, it has adjustable recovery time and iron bias. Changing these, changes the character of the whole machine in a trashy area.

Have you seen the Nox running the 6" coil? (I see there is a 5" available for the FC). Given only an 11" coil, I wouldn't use the Nox except at the beach! BTW, I never said the 'only' advantage of a Nox is ID at depth. That is one of its better features.

Funny. You said
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... if the Fors Core offered Iron Audio Volume, to me it would be my perfect machine.......... gregg

Pssst. The Nox has that! smiling smiley

Bottom line, Gregg - no hard feelings. Not trying to start brand wars, or question your choice of machine. Any hunter must feel comfortable and confident with their detector to have fun and be successful!

I simply wanted to know why you thought it was better (from my engineering / spreadsheet mentality smiling smiley That is because the Nox can operate at any single frequency, now has the 6" coil, and has a very fast recovery time - all those features that contribute to picking out good targets in the trash.


Anxiously looking forward to seeing you again in Nevada and comparing notes.
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The EQ800 - Does it qualify for Monte's House of Horrors ?

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glabelle 292 May 31, 2019 06:26PM

George, taking an evaluation break so I'll add two brief replies.

Monte 288 June 03, 2019 09:14AM

Wells

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Holy Mackerel !!!!

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Goin' to the Dogs. . .

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New Detectors - Finding What's Left.

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New or current Detectors: What works well for "Finding What's Left."

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UtahRich 194 May 29, 2019 07:18PM

forgive me if I'm not real excited :-)

glabelle 214 May 28, 2019 08:50PM

Agree on many points

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NWCindy 220 May 28, 2019 08:15PM

You ask: "... I hope you're ready to instruct" - - - and I answer: 'Nope.'

Monte 305 May 29, 2019 03:44AM

Re: You ask: "... I hope you're ready to instruct" - - - and I answer: 'Nope.'

NWCindy 213 May 29, 2019 03:58AM

Delivery Update: A new XP ORX is hoped to arrive by Friday the 31st.

Monte 258 May 28, 2019 07:21PM

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Kickindirt 284 May 28, 2019 06:33PM

Yes, "you told me so," but I like 'simple' ...

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Lance, my XP ORX arrived yesterday morning.

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Oh, I was "ready for it," and I've been "giving it a chance."

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