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February 17, 2020 03:43AM avatar
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diggindeep
No detector will do it all, that's for sure. The Vanquish is a weird machine, it excels in some tests but totally sucks in others. To go even farther put a $1 gold count in place of the nickel and the list probably gets shorter.
True, no detector and coil combination can "do it all," to be sure. Some combinations, however, can do better than others in certain types of tests. For example, Iron Nails are the biggest offender I encounter at any/all old-use sites. Homesteads or ghost towns, railroad depots or stage stops, mining camps or logging camps, isolated dance halls or schools, and the list goes on. Iron Nails, of various sizes and types, tend to be just about everywhere.

In some cases they are well scattered but, and at other times they can be very densely littered over a good-sized area and very, very close. Naturally, there will be other ferrous and non-ferrous debris, but Nails are a serious challenge. At these old sites we also deal with rusty tin, or worse yet small shards of broken-up and decaying rusty tin that can frustrate anybody. Still, Nails are the most encountered and can be the heaviest in concentration.

Therefore, I like to use detectors that can provide me some of the better performance with the selected search coils for the site environment.

I will just say the Minelab Vanquish is a 'different' detector, and it's easy to explain why. How many other detectors are there on the market in the under $600 price range that work on Simultaneous Multi-Frequency ONLY?

Yes, the SMF might provide a little help in some applications, but there's no doubt that if it had a selectable-frequency option, it would be possible to improve performance in some applications just like you can with the Equinox 800. But because there isn't a 'perfect' detector, that means that ALL detectors will have some strong points to do well, but some negative aspects that means they stink In other applications.

Oh, definitely the list will get shorter when you have a controlled test like the 'Plank Board' and then change the test sample Coin being used. Go to a smaller-size and lower-conductive coin and you'll see the difference. True with any 'test', and OregonGregg knows this from a 'tough test' I invited him over to experience in early 2017. I used my NBPT which came about when I encountered an Indian Head Cent among the four Iron Nails. Some detectors struggle on this and some do 'OK.' There are a possible 8 hits when swept from left and right over the 4 marked routes. For ME, I only want a detector in my Relic Hunting Team that can provide 7-of-8 or 8-of-8 on the Nail Board. In the center #1 position we use an Indian Head or a modern Zinc Cent because they are the same size and have a close conductivity level.

The 'Tough Test' became that when I used a much thinner and much smaller diameter 1836 Capped Bust Half-Dime. More conductive due to being 89+% silver, but the very small size made it a real challenge. Just like swapping a $1 Gold Coin for the 5ยข piece. That can be done just to see what the outcome is, but in the long run, while we'd really prefer to find a silver Half-Dime or small Gold Coin, the odds are we'll encounter an Indian Head Cent or an old Nickel far more often.

I plan to bring my Nail Board, the Plank Board, the Nail-on-Button Front and a few more 'Test Samples' for folks to check out their detectors and coils with preferred settings on the WTHO to Wells, Nevada this June 3rd to 7th. Who knows, checking out these 6 to 10 tests might urge some participants to thin out a detector or two that fall way short. Of course, these are mainly educational moments for get-serious Relic Hunting tools. Urban Coin & Jewelry Hunters can be just fine with their city-use units.

Monte

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Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

OregonGregg 124 February 16, 2020 05:04PM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

Elbert 52 February 19, 2020 03:26PM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

OregonGregg 53 February 19, 2020 04:01PM

Zincoln's Whites results...and a Compadre Attachments

zincoln 92 February 17, 2020 03:37PM

Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

Monte 102 February 17, 2020 05:36AM

Now you got me thinking...........

OregonGregg 83 February 17, 2020 08:52AM

There is still hope ............. Attachments

OregonGregg 78 February 17, 2020 06:06PM

Re: There is still hope .............

WM6 56 February 18, 2020 04:27AM

In many ways I agree, however, not totally. Here's why.

Monte 52 February 18, 2020 08:56AM

Re: There is still hope ............. Attachments

glabelle 84 February 18, 2020 08:26AM

That photo pretty well nails it. . . . . . . . . . so to speak. N/T

UtahRich 40 February 19, 2020 08:21AM

Re: There is still hope .............

WM6 55 February 18, 2020 11:26AM

Re: There is still hope ............. Attachments

glabelle 77 February 18, 2020 01:57PM

Re: There is still hope .............

WM6 43 February 18, 2020 03:50PM

thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up .. George, 'Thank You.' That photo even out-speaks me!eye popping smiley N/T

Monte 40 February 18, 2020 10:01AM

Re: There is still hope .............

glabelle 44 February 18, 2020 07:42AM

Re: There is still hope .............

glabelle 45 February 17, 2020 09:23PM

Yes, 'spreadsheets' fior OregonGregg.

Monte 51 February 18, 2020 03:34AM

Analytics for Gregg -

UtahRich 46 February 18, 2020 08:16AM

Another test suggestion

glabelle 60 February 17, 2020 09:11AM

Re: Another test suggestion

OregonGregg 53 February 17, 2020 09:21AM

Re: Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

glabelle 57 February 17, 2020 08:47AM

Re: Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

glabelle 70 February 17, 2020 07:27AM

Re: Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

Monte 63 February 17, 2020 01:17PM

Re: Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

glabelle 45 February 17, 2020 01:48PM

Deciding on a 'favorite' detector for Ghost Town Hunting? Simple ...

Monte 50 February 18, 2020 03:16AM

And some over-the-phone results.

Monte 68 February 17, 2020 06:45AM

Re: And some over-the-phone results.

diggindeep 60 February 17, 2020 09:11AM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

Kickindirt 57 February 16, 2020 10:44PM

Coil size matters . . . . ???

UtahRich 50 February 17, 2020 11:54AM

Kickindirt, about the ORX and coils used.

Monte 72 February 17, 2020 04:45AM

Re: Kickindirt, about the ORX and coils used.

Kickindirt 54 February 17, 2020 06:04AM

Squashed like a bug?

UtahRich 64 February 16, 2020 10:29PM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

diggindeep 73 February 16, 2020 07:48PM

I agree with you, but ....

Monte 73 February 17, 2020 03:43AM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

D&P-OR 79 February 16, 2020 07:21PM

Del, some answers & information for you: Attachments

Monte 80 February 17, 2020 02:57AM

Re: Del, some answers & information for you:

D&P-OR 60 February 17, 2020 07:36AM



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