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Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

February 17, 2020 05:36AM avatar
I made them in Red.

Went over and visited Monte today to look at a new machine he had and to pick one up. Also to try a test, so I grabbed my little Red Racer and the snake coil and NEL sharp and headed over. Monte explained the test, got my hopes up before I attempted the test and then squashed them like a bug.......and the scary part ....he was grinning the whole time.

Well, I came away from there with one fact and one fact only..........There is not a perfect detector made.

The test was two nails lets say laying in a north/south direction about two inches apart with a buffalo nickel between them. Here are the sizes and positions of the Nails and Coin:

Some additional information:

Length of Left Square Nail: 2⅝"
Length of Right Square Nail: 2⅝+"
Distance Head-to-Head: 1⅝"
Distance Tip-to-Tip: 1⅜"
Inside Nail Edge across the center of the Nickel to Inside Nail Edge: 1⅝"
Distance from Left Nail Inside Edge to the Nickel: ⅜+"
Distance from Right Nail Inside Edge to the Nickel: ⅜"


Most machines could hit the nickel in an east/west sweep, but not a north/south sweep except a Tesoro with a 6" concentric coil ... and if you fine-tuned the IDX Pro w/6½" Concentric to just barely knock out the nails, plus the Racer 2 w/7" Concentric with a controlled sweep speed, they could also hit the Nickel on top between two Nails' in both directions. But the Tesoro w/6" had the edge..

The nails were mounted on a board about 1.5 inches thick.... they are on a 1X4 board. So the next test was to place the nickel under the board (and nails) still positioned between the two nails. (the same position as before except now the nails are approx 1.5 inches... 1" above the nickel) Every machine with a concentric coil failed. My Racer with the two small DD coils failed. Only three machines with a larger DD coil could hit the nickel in an east/west sweep.

Surprised me a bit. They were the ORX with 9" round .. X35 DD Coil, Simplex with the 11'' DD coil and last but not least the Vanquish with the 5x8 DD or 6x9 will have to ask Monte again what size is the coil on that machine. So next trip back over there I want to try my CoRe and Relic with 9.5x5 coils and see how they do.

In some previous test last summer we did a few ... 1 Nail on 1 Brass Button Front test and the Relic and CoRe won hands down against an ORX and Eq 800 and MX Sport and V3i since we're comparing performance . But on this particular test my poor little Racer fell on its butt, so I am curious about trying some of the mid-size coils and see if it will hit like the other 3 machines .. ORX, Vanquish and Simplex+ did with their bigger coils.

Be ready for the outing. Monte is going to have some tests set up. I am not going to bet on any one machine. The only bet I will make is that there will not be one model that can pass them all cool smiley

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2020 06:15AM by Monte.
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Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

OregonGregg 124 February 16, 2020 05:04PM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

Elbert 53 February 19, 2020 03:26PM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

OregonGregg 53 February 19, 2020 04:01PM

Zincoln's Whites results...and a Compadre Attachments

zincoln 92 February 17, 2020 03:37PM

Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

Monte 102 February 17, 2020 05:36AM

Now you got me thinking...........

OregonGregg 84 February 17, 2020 08:52AM

There is still hope ............. Attachments

OregonGregg 78 February 17, 2020 06:06PM

Re: There is still hope .............

WM6 56 February 18, 2020 04:27AM

In many ways I agree, however, not totally. Here's why.

Monte 52 February 18, 2020 08:56AM

Re: There is still hope ............. Attachments

glabelle 84 February 18, 2020 08:26AM

That photo pretty well nails it. . . . . . . . . . so to speak. N/T

UtahRich 40 February 19, 2020 08:21AM

Re: There is still hope .............

WM6 55 February 18, 2020 11:26AM

Re: There is still hope ............. Attachments

glabelle 77 February 18, 2020 01:57PM

Re: There is still hope .............

WM6 43 February 18, 2020 03:50PM

thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up .. George, 'Thank You.' That photo even out-speaks me!eye popping smiley N/T

Monte 40 February 18, 2020 10:01AM

Re: There is still hope .............

glabelle 44 February 18, 2020 07:42AM

Re: There is still hope .............

glabelle 45 February 17, 2020 09:23PM

Yes, 'spreadsheets' fior OregonGregg.

Monte 51 February 18, 2020 03:34AM

Analytics for Gregg -

UtahRich 46 February 18, 2020 08:16AM

Another test suggestion

glabelle 60 February 17, 2020 09:11AM

Re: Another test suggestion

OregonGregg 53 February 17, 2020 09:21AM

Re: Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

glabelle 57 February 17, 2020 08:47AM

Re: Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

glabelle 70 February 17, 2020 07:27AM

Re: Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

Monte 63 February 17, 2020 01:17PM

Re: Just a few updates or corrections for Gregg's post.

glabelle 45 February 17, 2020 01:48PM

Deciding on a 'favorite' detector for Ghost Town Hunting? Simple ...

Monte 50 February 18, 2020 03:16AM

And some over-the-phone results.

Monte 68 February 17, 2020 06:45AM

Re: And some over-the-phone results.

diggindeep 60 February 17, 2020 09:11AM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

Kickindirt 57 February 16, 2020 10:44PM

Coil size matters . . . . ???

UtahRich 50 February 17, 2020 11:54AM

Kickindirt, about the ORX and coils used.

Monte 72 February 17, 2020 04:45AM

Re: Kickindirt, about the ORX and coils used.

Kickindirt 54 February 17, 2020 06:04AM

Squashed like a bug?

UtahRich 65 February 16, 2020 10:29PM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

diggindeep 73 February 16, 2020 07:48PM

I agree with you, but ....

Monte 74 February 17, 2020 03:43AM

Re: Hopes & Dreams, squashed like a bug.

D&P-OR 80 February 16, 2020 07:21PM

Del, some answers & information for you: Attachments

Monte 81 February 17, 2020 02:57AM

Re: Del, some answers & information for you:

D&P-OR 60 February 17, 2020 07:36AM



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