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Here's a little story behind Troy Custom Detectors?

April 05, 2020 11:39AM avatar
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WM6:
Troy Shadow X5 looks like Tesoro detectors, but produced by Fisher ???:

The Shadow X3 and X5 were 'assembled' by Fisher Labs back when they were alive and located in Los Banos, California. Before essentially going under and being purchased by FTP (First Texas Products) who already had Bounty Hunter and Teknetics.

Back in the latter '90s, Troy Galloway and his wife enjoyed metal detecting and mainly used Tesoro's. His wife enjoyed the "turn-on-and-go" Silver Sabre microMAX (produced from 10/'97 thru 2/'01) for its preset Ground Balance (which made it a "turn-on-and-go" model because it lacked manual GB control) combined with the fact that it worked well, especially for all the Coin Hunting they liked to do.

Since Zinc Cents were then in popular use for a while here in the USA and often deteriorating once lost in the soil, he thought about having his own metal detector line .... initially with only one model ... and being able to quickly reject the annoying US Zinc Cent. And since he liked the light weight and simplicity of the Tesoro Silver Sabre microMAX (µMAX) he contacted Jack Gifford, founder and President of Tesoro Electronics, and arraigned to have them make his new detector 'concept' to be named the Troy Custom Shadow X2.

It was simply the Silver Sabre µMAX in a black control housing and black rods as used with the Tesoro models sold in 'foreign' countries. The Threshold control know was removed from the face-plate and relocated inside the control housing as a small 'trimmer.' They switched sides with the Sensitivity and Discrimination controls. They also moved the Pinpoint button from the left side to the right where the Threshold knob used to be,

Then, where the Pinpoint button used to be, they added a button labeled Coin Check which was a momentary (while pushed-in and held) Discriminate switch that was set by an interesting rectangular trimmer on the back-side of the Control face. This temporary 'Coin Check' was adjusted to just reject the common Zinc Cent so urban Coin Hunters wouldn't be digging those cheapish coins that would get pitted and eaten away from the soil make-up.

To add to the "new" design, he had Jack make a thin, black housing 7" Concentric coil called the Super 7 Inch ... and honestly .., that was maybe the better feature of that new model offering.

The Good Points:

• It was really nothing more than a re-configured Silver Sabre µMAX in a black housing which looked good, and came with a nice, thinner and lighter 7" search coil, but worked like a Silver Sabre µMAX.

• If ground conditions were favorable and the internal 'Coin Check' trimmer was adjusted properly, the 'Coin Check' feature worked for some Coin Hunters to eliminate recovering our modern junk-condition pennies.
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The Bad Points:

• The functional, external Threshold control was now removed to the inside making it useless.

• The use of the 'Coin Check' function might have been liked by urban Coin Hunters, but there are a lot of desirable targets with a similar conductivity to the modern Zinc Cents that would also be rejected when that was used, to include most Indian Head Cents from 1864 to 1909, and most early Wheat-Back Cents from 1909 to ± 1920.

• The worst thing, and it happened with just about any-other time a detector was made as a 'private label' by an existing manufacturer, like what happened to Pillar Electronics and others, the existing detector maker is going to charge you an ample amount to do all the work to make a competitive product, such that the new detector has to have an MSRP significantly greater than anything they currently offer. In other words, Tesoro made the Troy Custom Shadow X2 that was only in a different colored rod and housing and with an added 'Coin Check' button that was based on, and worked the same as their own Silver Sabre µMAX. However, it cost Troy so much that his MSRP had to be significantly higher than the same-performing manufacturer's product.

Troy wasn't a design engineer, nor did he have his own manufacturing business. Just ideas and concepts to be made or assembled by others.

His next idea was to have a somewhat different control package and circuitry and two models. One more of a 'turn-on-and-go' and the other a more control-featured unit for the Avid Detectorist. The result was the simpler Shadow X3 to fill the first niche, and the Shadow X5 for the more savvy detector user. It was also going to operate at a higher frequency. At the time, you had an experienced and available design engineer who had been with Fisher, and that was David Johnson.

Dave left Fisher and ended up as the design engineer at FTP, but between those two employers he was contracted by Tesoro to design two models, the Lobo SuperTRAQ and µMAX Diablo, and also was hired by White's to make the Gold Master Tracker and MXT, plus he helped Mark Roan on some DFX engineering issues. Also, he was hired by Troy to make the two new models for him, and when finished Troy told me he didn't like all the design or Dave didn't finish everything as he wanted and a little more had to be done.

Nonetheless, Troy settled on a new Shadow X3 and Shadow X5 and farmed out the circuitry design work and contracted with Fisher Labs to do all the assembly of the two new Troy Custom detectors. This was as we were into the early part of this century and, as we know, the demand seemed to be favoring detectors with a Visual TID display and Audio Tone ID. And, just as before, he had an existing detector manufacturer make two models that were going to be in direct competition with some of their own products, soooo, Troy's cost was high and the MSRP was well above what the product should have or could have been priced at.

Troy Custom Detectors, which wasn't a self-manufacturing business, thus faded away like many, many others. Tesoro Electronics being the most recent just a year ago, and who knows which company will be next? But that's a fair review of the Troy Custom Detector effort on the industry here in the USA.

Monte

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2020 11:40AM by Monte.
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What is story behind Troy detectors?

WM6 219 April 05, 2020 06:01AM

Re: What is story behind Troy detectors? Well...I have a very nice Shadow X2 made by Tesorothumbs up

Hombre 163 April 12, 2020 03:25PM

Randy, the Shadow X2 was Troy's best offering.

Monte 183 April 14, 2020 03:59AM

Here's a little story behind Troy Custom Detectors?

Monte 207 April 05, 2020 11:39AM

Re: Here's a little story behind Troy Custom Detectors?

WM6 155 April 05, 2020 12:03PM



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