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White's M6 ... Good detector, bad marketing.

August 10, 2020 03:44AM avatar
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jmaryt
the m6 i had was an outstanding coin sniper, and there is a "ton" of people out there who loved it. people tended to overlook it for the more featured mxt. it really was very underrated because of this.always in the shadow of the mighty mxt.some say the m6 was an mxt stuck in coin and jewelry mode, and i believe this is what gave it "sleeper" status.

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j.t.

The original MXT was a good detector in many ways, but there were some things that were overlooked in the design. One was being able to see the Ground Phase read-out unless you selected the Prospecting mode. Another was not having a quick selection for good 2-Tone audio of Ferrous / Non-Ferrous in a Coin Hunting mode. A third was not using Coin Hunting TID in the Relic mode.

The good news was that the MXT was a new circuitry design and the detector worked well, generally, for most applications. The two troubling things were that the bulk of the metal detecting hobbyists around 2000 were Coin Hunters and they didn't want or need a Prospecting mode, or even the Relic mode. Plus, there was a third bad design having the built-in, trigger-forward Notch Disc. pre-set settings. That was a bad design at the time. because it was fair for rejecting a lot of the older-style Ring-Pull Tabs, but the modern Rectangular Pry-Tabs were in use and those pesky things just about mimic a US 5¢ piece. It was a preset Notch the user couldn't vary.

Also, the MXT was priced a bit high for the changing MSRP trend at the time, but that was one of the ruts White's got themselves into. Being over-priced compared with the competition, and they stayed that way just about 'til the end of their life. The MXT kind of fit a 'versatile' group and they fashioned the M6 to appeal to the Coin Hunting group. Just used the original MXT circuitry and changed to an 'S' rod design to cut costs, and eliminated the Relic and Prospecting modes. But that also eliminated any Ground Phase read-out as well as an All Metal mode. They did eliminate the preset Notch Disc., but now the trigger-forward position put it in a 7-Tone Audio ID. Few people liked or used that setting.

The M6 came out in late '05, if memory serves me correctly, and I got one when released and used it for more Coin Hunting tasks than the MXT. I liked the M6, but even back then I liked some of my other detectors better. One reason was because they had more user control and more conveyed information than the M6. Another reason was when it came out I had been detecting for 40 years, and as I was getting older I found it a bit heavy. I was used to more lighter-weight detectors, and by then my health was getting to me and my mobility was hampered. I injured my back in late '87 working at Compass, and in '93 I was given a cane to help me get around a little easier due to my bad back.

I'm not alone in the getting old category, either. When the M6 came out I was 56 years old and already health impaired. I was familiar with using a metal detector, a lot, and dealing with physical limitations I really appreciated using a lighter-weight and better-balanced detector. No, the M6 doesn't feel all that bad, to some folks for some applications. But I recall OregonGregg getting started in this great sport the summer of 2013 with an MXT. He bought an M6 for his Dad, and then used it and liked its 'feel' and simplicity, so he bought one for himself.

He was about 48 at the time and he put it to good use hunting a nearby ghost town with great success! He has a lot of very good finds in his binder that came to life with the M6 and smaller-size coil at work. He used it more than his MXT for two years and at the ripe old age of 50 he was also starting to use a Nokta FORS CoRe and Makro Racer. He still has his very proven M6, but it is a decoration piece as the CoRe, especially, gets used the most, plus he has his Racer, Racer 2 and a FORS Relic. He has used his M6 a time or two since its retirement' but not only does it not work quite as well for the tough iron littered sites we hunt, but he can't hunt as long as he can with his Nokta or Makro units because the M6 gets fatiguing ... and Gregg's much healthier that I was at his age.

So, yes, the M6 was a good detector and it worked / works pretty well, but it is another example of how so many White's detectors lacked some of the visual display information, or search modes, or 'modern' adjustment features that we enjoy from competitive models. And by comparison, White's were a little heavier as well as priced much higher and not competitive. Like I said, when the M6 was introduced I got one and used it quite a bit along with other models I had.

But when the MXT was improved by Carl Moreland and enhanced to the MXT Pro, it became my primary-use detector at the time, complemented by the XLT, XL Pro and modified Classic ID and IDX Pro devices. I had a few other brands around, especially my two favorite Tesoro devices. I also later had the Teknetics T2 w/5" DD and in 2010 a Tek. Omega 8000 and never missed the M6. I think White's could have done better with it when they brought it back out after being discontinued, but they didn't promote it well, kept the price too high, and tried to offer it more as a CSI type unit.

It was good in its day, but .....

Monte

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OregonGregg 58 August 18, 2020 11:24AM

Troy Shadow X2 or Garrett Freedom III Plus

dixiedigger57 82 August 11, 2020 10:53AM

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GeoW 81 August 11, 2020 04:06PM

Re: Troy Shadow X2 or Garrett Freedom III Plus

dixiedigger57 78 August 12, 2020 07:00AM

Thanks for the info, story and suggestions.

Monte 85 August 12, 2020 09:34AM

Re: Thanks for the info, story and suggestions.

D&P-OR 79 August 16, 2020 02:33PM

Life-decisions get folks where they want to be.

Monte 91 August 16, 2020 05:28PM

Now, back to General Metal Detecting topics. N/T

Monte 51 August 17, 2020 08:20AM

Re: Thanks for the info, story and suggestions.

Druid 62 August 15, 2020 05:26PM

Trying to hang in there as long as possible.

Monte 78 August 16, 2020 07:50AM

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UtahRich 64 August 11, 2020 12:26PM

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Monte 65 August 11, 2020 08:40PM

Re: What 1 USED DETECTOR would you choose ?

GeoW 82 August 10, 2020 09:37PM

GeoW, I took UtahRich's question differently.

Monte 76 August 11, 2020 08:42AM

Re: GeoW, I took UtahRich's question differently.

GeoW 51 August 11, 2020 04:14PM

Re: What 1 USED DETECTOR would you choose ?

Timbertodd 69 August 09, 2020 05:00PM

Only 'ONE' used detector?

Monte 88 August 09, 2020 04:43PM

UtahRich, drop me a PM or an e-mail and let me know what those two models are. N/T

Monte 55 August 09, 2020 02:30PM

Re: What 1 USED DETECTOR would you choose ?

jmaryt 97 August 09, 2020 01:40PM

Re: What 1 USED DETECTOR would you choose ?

Tom Slick 71 August 10, 2020 09:23AM

I like your choice -

UtahRich 78 August 09, 2020 02:41PM

Re: I like your choice -

jmaryt 72 August 09, 2020 07:39PM

J.t., you're partly correct on the 6000 Pro XL but wrong on the M6.

Monte 89 August 09, 2020 02:27PM

Re: J.t., you're partly correct on the 6000 Pro XL but wrong on the M6.

jmaryt 81 August 09, 2020 07:30PM

White's M6 ... Good detector, bad marketing.

Monte 82 August 10, 2020 03:44AM

Re: White's M6 ... Good detector, bad marketing.

jmaryt 64 August 16, 2020 11:54AM

Back to you J. T.

Monte 71 August 16, 2020 12:55PM

Re: Back to you J. T.

jmaryt 53 August 17, 2020 11:34AM



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