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And to what you said, Andrew, I agree ... to a point.

November 21, 2020 01:55PM avatar
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diggindeep
Sad truth is most people never use a SMF enough to know what they are doing.

100% Agree: Because "most people" never use ANY detector they own, single, selectable or multi, enough to know what they (the operator) or it (the detector) is doing.to really achieve full performance.


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diggindeep
The DFX, CZ and Apex are not that technical and are fairly easy to learn. However most of the Minelab machines and the Whites V series are a different animal.

Mostly Agree: There are less-featured and easier-to-learn SMF's, and we can add the Vanquish series to the DFX, CZ and Apex so far a less-adjustable and easier to learn. But even though the upper-end FBS Minelabs and White's V3i are a bit more cluttered with adjustable functions, the "most people" you initially referred to can still struggle with the simpler SMF's because they are still stuck in a rut trying to understand the Single-Frequency models as well.

Therefore, I Mostly Agree as it applies to 'most' people who have a detector somewhere around their house. Now, if they have the desire and put their mind to 'learning' ANY of the detectors they own, then all of them would be simpler and less challenging, to include the 'toughies' in the SMF 'different animal' group.


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diggindeep
They are not as bad as people lead you to believe in iron trash. The e-trac is actually quite capable in trash with a small coil and the right settings.

Sort of Agree: Simply because it calls for the individual learning how to select the best search coils as well as master any and all adjustment functions in order to gain the most any detector can achieve .... AND .... then it boils down to what an individual determines an "iron trash" site to actually be defined and described as. I've been down that road and owned some of the SMF's, and hunted with very experienced exclusive SMF users (Minelab brand) and in the ugliest of really dense ferrous contamination, some of those models, regardless of factory or after-market coil, were no match with a few select Single-Frequency detectors.


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diggindeep
I'm not out to change anyone's mind. But the reality is they are excellent machines and the finds made by them are proof.

100% Agree: I also don't want to change anyone's mind because there are some really excellent detectors out there, in Single, Selectable and Simultaneous Multi-Frequency design that have been, are, and will continue to reward the dedicated users with some fantastic finds.

My caution to any consumer is:

• Learn what you'll need

• Buy what you'll learn

• Get at least two different detectors to complement each other

• Then select good potential hunt locations, Use them, and you'll enjoy greater success with anything you have in-hand.

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Subject Author Views Posted

Why Multi-Freq. Is a Must Have in Detecting..........

UtahRich 317 November 20, 2020 07:12PM

Re: Why Multi-Freq. Is a Must Have in Detecting..........

Kickindirt 165 November 25, 2020 02:52PM

XP Multi-Freq.

Remfire 170 November 26, 2020 12:20AM

Re: XP Multi-Freq.

Kickindirt 176 November 26, 2020 12:54AM

Re: XP Multi-Freq.

Dan'o 174 November 26, 2020 09:08AM

Re: Why Multi-Freq. Is a Must Have in Detecting..........

Timbertodd 215 November 21, 2020 04:56PM

Re: Why Multi-Freq. Is a Must Have in Detecting..........

diggindeep 220 November 21, 2020 11:38AM

No particular reason.

UtahRich 208 November 21, 2020 10:50PM

Very correct about some of the Minelab behavior.

Monte 250 November 22, 2020 12:25AM

Another round of cut backs gets the Vanquish 540

UtahRich 199 November 22, 2020 07:32PM

For now, with winter upon us, 'Red' will hang around.

Monte 166 November 25, 2020 05:38AM

Re: Another round of cut backs gets the Vanquish 540

diggindeep 210 November 22, 2020 07:48PM

Follow the leader . . .

UtahRich 196 November 23, 2020 11:48PM

And to what you said, Andrew, I agree ... to a point.

Monte 267 November 21, 2020 01:55PM

Ahhhh HAAA! my word --OPERATOR!

dixiedigger57 194 November 24, 2020 11:34AM

Re: Why Multi-Freq. Is a Must Have in Detecting..........

D&P-OR 187 November 21, 2020 12:46PM

Good questions, and I guess I have my answers.

Monte 257 November 20, 2020 11:16PM

The Road LessTraveled

UtahRich 213 November 21, 2020 03:08AM

The Road Not Taken

UtahRich 209 November 22, 2020 01:11AM

Re: The Road LessTraveled

Kickindirt 208 November 21, 2020 01:24PM

Re: The Road LessTraveled

jmaryt 207 November 22, 2020 09:17PM

That would be a YES Vote.

UtahRich 182 November 22, 2020 09:36PM

Re: That would be a YES Vote.

jmaryt 185 November 22, 2020 10:19PM

No, not quite correct.

Monte 219 November 21, 2020 02:29PM

Re: No, not quite correct.

Kickindirt 183 November 21, 2020 03:17PM

It kind of depends on the road we select.

Monte 245 November 21, 2020 07:58AM

Quick Response - grinning smiley ..

UtahRich 192 November 20, 2020 11:26PM

Re: Why Multi-Freq. Is a Must Have in Detecting..........

OregonGregg 239 November 20, 2020 07:34PM

A must have ? You sure ? .

UtahRich 241 November 20, 2020 08:10PM

LOL not sure of anything.......

OregonGregg 219 November 21, 2020 09:01AM

Re: Why Multi-Freq. Is a Must Have in Detecting..........

Digstrashtomuch 230 November 20, 2020 07:24PM



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