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December 29, 2022 01:24AM avatar
From what I have been able to find the button is a1 piece copper/brass post War of 1812 U.S. enlisted General Service great coat button of the 1820-1826 period. Albert's GI-70-B. Based on its age and the find location I believe the button was lost in the early to mid 1830's. This is almost 10 years before the first Emigrants. The time frame points to the first documented travel/discovery of the California trail in the area north of Wells. An important crossing of the great basin took place in 1833. The paragraphs below are taken from a document I found.
"The Walker/Bonnevile expedition commanded by Joseph R. Walker and began at the Green River Wyoming in July 1833. Whether this trip was a trapping expedition, or a secretive scouting venture is debatable. This ambiguity provides a metaphor for the transition taking place at this time between fur trapping interests in the western Great Basin and the government-sponsored exploration of the region, driven by the US government expansionist policy, (also referred to as "manifest destiny". Walkers 40-man brigade, part of the force commanded by Captain Benjamin L. D.de Bonneville, skirted north around the Great Salt Lake and Pilot Peak, reaching the headwaters of the Humbolt, (then Ogden's then "unknown" river). Increasing tensions with the native American Indians resulted in Walker's men killing 30-40 Indians who appeared to be threatening. The expedition then crossed the Sierra and Californias Central Valley, arriving in Monterrey, the Mexican provincial capital, in November 1833.
The next spring, 1834, Walkers party headed east from the San Joquin valley on their way to the annual Mountain Man rendezvous on the Bear River. Walker discovered a suitable pass, now bearing his name, in the southern Sierra and the San Joquin Valley and Owens Valley. They eventually located the previous fall's route south of the Humbolt Sink where they'd encountered another group of Northern Paiutes, shot another 14 (unprovoked, but Walker's men were "frustrated", they then backtracked up the river. Their divergence from the previous route, heading up towards the northeast corner of Nevada, near present day Wells."
Sorry for the lengthy bit of history but I believe this expedition is the most likely ones that were in the area and lost the button. I suppose the button could have been lost at a later date, but clothing probably didn't last long enough to stretch into the 1840's. I am very interested in getting back to the site to see if I can further prove my theory.
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