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Kicking the hornets nest - Bamm

February 25, 2023 03:38PM avatar
Definitely a loaded question as we've seen from the many emotional responses below.

Red flags went up for me as I watched Loren Lemcke's video and he comes back to his data source of 1000 targets over the summer (3 min mark), 50% initially found by the deus 2 and 50% initially found by the 800. Targets are NOT just easy surface targets, but possibly masked targets and deep targets as well and both detectors always detected them. His take away from the experiment: Perhaps 1/1000 targets were different. Thus, essentially no difference in the upper end detectors. Well, there is price.

Why is this a red flag for me? Because when I hunt with other detectorists and we compare targets, it is common to have difficult targets seen by one detector and not seen by the other. It is also common to have a detector call something bad (discriminated) and another call it good. This is educational and eye opening and may have you making tweaks to a setting(s), changing to a different coil or even considering a change to your detector.

Going out hunting with Loren, in his area, would be really interesting to see how he sets up his detectors and how he goes about his hunting and to get an idea of the local conditions. It would be a learning experience for me I'm sure. For the time being, I move on for my advice.

Where to turn for advice? Well, I'm guessing that some won't be turning to Calabash Digger as his strong personality and abrupt responses to criticism don't typically endear him to many. In my mind, he does hunt in places similar to what I do and if i can glean some helpful knowledge from him and his videos, I will. He is also looking for the best performance possible out of his machines and can be quick to change to something else if he thinks there is an edge there. I tend towards technology advancements like he does. That makes me poison to some entrenched in long standing opinions or ways of doing things. Granted.

As for me, there are other YouTube personalities that hunt locations similar to mine, but from watching their methods and procedures on camera, I see too many red flags and think their opinions need much more experience before they would be helpful to me.

And then there are those who hunt areas different than I, who i watch carefully for ideas that might open new avenues to my detecting so that I always have places to hunt. These are the gold nugget prospectors, beach and shallow water hunters, and such. I Break for Bedrock, Two Toes, Tassie Boys Prospecting, Outback Gold Fever, Hiluxyota, Aquachigger, I Dig Daytona, Relics and Rings (Andrew) and many others. I see ideas and inspiration here.

And some I may seek advice from don't have a YouTube presence, like many of you that gather here and on other forums. I read and evaluate. Consider.

A last comment - we always have things to learn and knowledge to gain. Being able to hunt with others and compare notes, signals and experiences with them will help further your own progress, it may have you changing or modifying your own 'methods and procedures', might even have you considering a change or addition of equipment. It might just validate that you have your detector pretty well figured out and others may learn from you. In my mind, there are differences in the performance of equipment and as your knowledge and skills increase, your ability to notice these will increase as well.

UtahRich -

Zen and the Art of Metal Detecting . . . . .
Subject Author Views Posted

Which metal detector is the best?

glabelle 322 February 23, 2023 12:04PM

Re: Which metal detector is the best?

Harold,ILL. 52 February 27, 2023 01:58PM

Re: Best OF What??

Kickindirt 56 February 26, 2023 09:09PM

Re: Which metal detector is the best?

ScoTTT2 73 February 26, 2023 11:55AM

Throw some more gas on them flames..............

OregonGregg 84 February 26, 2023 10:08AM

Kicking the hornets nest - Bamm

UtahRich 92 February 25, 2023 03:38PM

Kick away Richthumbs upthumbs up

Utmike 80 February 25, 2023 07:35PM

Comparisons and Test Results -

UtahRich 126 February 27, 2023 08:24AM

It depends on where I am hunting, coil desired, and

Monte 79 February 24, 2023 05:34PM

Re: It depends on where I am hunting, coil desired, and

glabelle 79 February 24, 2023 07:55PM

The best detector ? eye popping smiley

UtahRich 97 February 24, 2023 11:56PM

Rich, you left me on the fence to ...

Monte 91 February 25, 2023 09:07AM

Re: Rich, you left me on the fence to ...

Kickindirt 56 February 26, 2023 08:55PM

Re: Rich, you left me on the fence to ...

GeoW 56 February 25, 2023 03:30PM

Re: Rich, you left me on the fence to ...

Jamie 64 February 25, 2023 01:58PM

Don't fall off the Fence.......

OregonGregg 70 February 25, 2023 10:04AM

Gregg, here are my reasons and 'best' thoughts.

Monte 72 February 25, 2023 11:15AM

Re: Gregg, here are my reasons and 'best' thoughts.

OregonGregg 64 February 25, 2023 05:58PM

Re: The best detector ? eye popping smiley

glabelle 70 February 25, 2023 08:48AM


OregonGregg 75 February 24, 2023 08:13PM

Re: Well..............

glabelle 67 February 24, 2023 08:27PM

Best machine is the one you like best and puts a smile on your face! N/T

kac 70 February 23, 2023 09:35PM

Re: Well said, kac.thumbs up

Digger 68 February 24, 2023 10:08AM

Re: Which metal detector is the best?

Jamie 79 February 23, 2023 08:20PM

Re: Which metal detector is the best?

D&P-OR 76 February 23, 2023 09:18PM

Re: Which metal detector is the best?

NWCindy 65 February 24, 2023 10:00PM

Question Everything

UtahRich 69 February 25, 2023 03:11AM

Re: Question Everything

NWCindy 57 February 25, 2023 03:05PM

Good answer. Thanks. N/T

Monte 49 February 25, 2023 03:12AM

Re: Good answer. Thanks.

NWCindy 49 February 26, 2023 05:59PM

No real 'bickering', just expressed opinions.

Monte 92 February 25, 2023 02:46AM

Re: No real 'bickering', just expressed opinions.

NWCindy 50 February 25, 2023 03:55PM

I'm goin huntin!!! smiling smiley N/T

D&P-OR 42 February 24, 2023 09:57PM


Utmike 96 February 23, 2023 07:06PM

Re: Bad/Good/Better

diggindeep 67 February 24, 2023 12:07AM

Re: Bad/Good/Better

Utmike 63 February 24, 2023 01:03AM

Re: Bad/Good/Better

diggindeep 56 February 24, 2023 09:09AM

I don't agree with his premise 'All detectors are essentially equal'

UtahRich 75 February 23, 2023 05:21PM

Re: I don't agree with his premise 'All detectors are essentially equal' N/T

glabelle 56 February 23, 2023 06:23PM

I agree, all detectors are not the same. (60th year of detecting) N/T

glabelle 60 February 23, 2023 06:26PM

(60th year of detecting)

UtahRich 85 February 23, 2023 06:37PM

thumbs up N/T

kac 45 February 23, 2023 07:17PM

OregonGregg pipes in........... Attachments

OregonGregg 90 February 23, 2023 07:42PM

Re: OregonGregg pipes in...........

NWCindy 40 February 24, 2023 10:03PM

Your traditional CoRe Photo is a thing of beauty -

UtahRich 56 February 24, 2023 01:23AM

Your traditional CoRe Photo is a thing of beauty - Yep cool smiley

OregonGregg 58 February 24, 2023 10:27AM

Re: OregonGregg pipes in...........

kac 67 February 23, 2023 08:04PM

eye rolling smiley

UtahRich 71 February 23, 2023 10:14PM

Re: eye rolling smiley

kac 64 February 24, 2023 12:09AM

Re: eye rolling smiley

diggindeep 53 February 24, 2023 10:44AM

Yes and Yes

UtahRich 84 February 24, 2023 12:56AM

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