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The goods and the bads came in 1983.

August 16, 2020 09:12AM avatar
Everyone made metal detectors with variable discrimination so the user could increase it just to the point they were comfortable. For me, that was usually just enough to reject iron nails. Some folks increased it 2 knockout full or even is high as eliminating most pull tabs at the time and that included the US nickels as well.

A few people were using the modern fast motion discriminators but some of us, and that includes me, still enjoyed using a VLF/TR-Discriminator.

Then in 1983 we had two notable changes in the metal detector industry. One came from the original Teknetics who introduced the first Target ID model, and the other was Tesoro who introduced a slow-motion quick response fast recovery detector.

From that start the detector manufacturers quickly started working on and marketing their own Target ID detectors. Initially they were the upper end or top dollar models, but soon we saw mid-priced and then low and models that featured some form of graphic Target ID.

Up to that point anyone using a metal detector would you say beep / dig approach and recover all the good sounding targets above their discrimination setting. That means they were finding good stuff, and also recovering trash. Was that bad? No, not really, because as we removed the common discarded trash we started finding the desirable targets that were partially masked and in amongst all the trash.

And what was the benefit of the new Target ID models? Simply did it allowed people to rely on it more expressly and therefore recover Target's that gave a better lock on and more likely good reading response. Any Target that indicated as being junk, or a good Target that didn't lock on and was somewhat like a junk Target, got left behind.

The result? Some good targets being recovered but more trash targets being left behind which continued to mask desirable targets that were there. And since that time, 37 years ago, there has been more trash discarded which means more good targets and old targets being masked even more while people continue to pluck some of the lock on Target ID readings that are good.

If more people would learn a detector without relying on their visual Target ID, to better learn how the detector performs and how targets respond audibly it would help them. And they would find more desirable targets because they would be recovering more targets. Yes removing some trash, but in the long run that's really all part of the game we play with metal detecting.

Those folks who go out and rely on something like a Tesoro Bandido or Detech Vista X which lack any visual feature and rely on audio, will often find a lot of good targets that would be easily missed by those using visual Target ID.

Monte

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Jadon_PDX 191 July 19, 2020 02:31PM

Jadon, it's another weekend ... and I have some questions.

Monte 98 July 25, 2020 01:42AM

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Jadon_PDX 85 July 30, 2020 01:33PM

Thank You for the mode and setting update.

Monte 92 July 30, 2020 05:09PM

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Deep Coin Hunting - silver

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jmaryt 103 July 19, 2020 04:57PM

Is the EQ800 THE Go To Detector?

UtahRich 95 July 31, 2020 08:57AM

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jmaryt 77 August 13, 2020 05:32AM

Best of Luck with the new Apex !

UtahRich 71 August 13, 2020 05:24PM

Having success in park environments? -- It's all a personal thing.

Monte 97 August 13, 2020 07:52AM

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jmaryt 79 August 14, 2020 04:27PM

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Monte 68 August 15, 2020 01:53AM

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jmaryt 66 August 16, 2020 11:57AM

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OregonGregg 71 August 14, 2020 09:22PM

Want success in park environments? Use a Minelab.

UtahRich 110 August 14, 2020 10:38PM

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Kickindirt 68 August 15, 2020 07:59PM

The goods and the bads came in 1983.

Monte 66 August 16, 2020 09:12AM

Re: Want success in park environments? Use a Minelab.

Dan'o 64 August 16, 2020 08:52AM

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Dan'o 62 August 15, 2020 06:45PM

A very nice, to-the-point reply, Rich. 'Thank You.'

Monte 76 August 15, 2020 01:57AM

LOL. Yes, the Etrac is a great park hunter. Maybe the best.

UtahRich 72 August 15, 2020 07:03AM

OUCH ! ! ! winking smiley N/T

UtahRich 66 August 13, 2020 05:23PM

#1.. Make sure you are content with what you are using now. ... Then,

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