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Re: Well, I think about the search coils, and .....

November 10, 2020 12:55PM
Poor ole Gregg---he's just gettin it from all sides! winking smiley
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Monte
It's really just a mid-size search coil you really need to find.


Honestly, I don't know if there will be that many benefits to changing.

Yes, there will. You were initially thinking about an additional detector for your outfit to be used for 'scouting' purposes and hitting the 'fringe areas' where it is less trashy. Fringe areas are, therefore, a bit more open, as are the any plowed fields, or if you are on a 'scouting mission' and, in all these situations, you might be better served with a slightly bigger coil for coverage. That could be a 5X8 DD on a Vanquish 540 or a 5X9½ DD on a Simplex +, or either the stock 6X11 DD 'Viper' on an Apex or their new 5X8 DD 'Ripper'. Any of those would be an advantage to the roundish-shaped 7" DD.


My M6 w 7" or 4x6 will do as much or more in your test situations.

One of those might do a little better, but I don't think so, and I know the two combined are not going to be great picks. The Test Scenarios I used, the M6 w/4X6 scored '32', with a 4X6½ '35', and the 6X8 SEF only made it to '29'.. The new 7" Detech DD didn't do as well, and I know didn't match the Apex, V-540 or Simplex +.

Besides, both those M6 coils are smaller than the better 'fringe-size' and 'scouting-size' coils, and you don't need a smaller-size coil because it wouldn't match the Relic or CoRe in performance in the really nasty environments.


The only benefit I might lose over the Vanquish is depth. The Apex is undetermined until we can get some mid & small coils to try.

Yes, the Vanquish might get you a little improved depth, but remember, 'depth' is not a real need where we typically hunt. You're looking for a bit of improved 'coverage' for more open ares and that might hint to a coil bigger than 7".



Then there are the other considerations when it comes to detector choice, such as:

Tone ID Modes or design:
Apex - 5-Tone
V-540 - 5-Tone
Simplex + 2-Tone and 3-Tone
M6 - Single-Tone or drive-you-nuts 7-Tone


Ground Balance / Ground Phase read-out:
Apex - Yes, numeric GB references
V-540 - No GB option
Simplex + - Yes, numeric GB reference
M6 - None


Iron Audio Volume Control:
Apex - Yes
V-540 - Yes
Simplex _ - Yes
M6 - No


Excellent Ergonomics and Light-Weight / Well Balanced:
Apex - Yes
V-540 - Yes
Simplex + - Yes
M6 - (Use your imagination)

I better quit. Don't want him to be stuck inside all winter all mopey and depressed.eye popping smiley

Monte
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diggindeep 82 November 09, 2020 06:26PM

Very nice. My kind of hunt!! N/T

NWCindy 29 November 10, 2020 06:01PM

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EL NINO 30 November 10, 2020 11:09AM

Andrew, congrats on the good finds. 'Fatty' Indian Heads are always satisfying.thumbs up

Monte 26 November 10, 2020 12:38AM

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Kickindirt 28 November 09, 2020 10:06PM

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OregonGregg 28 November 09, 2020 08:38PM

What you give away here, you gain there.

UtahRich 34 November 09, 2020 09:14PM

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D&P-OR 33 November 09, 2020 09:32PM

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UtahRich 37 November 09, 2020 09:39PM

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OregonGregg 36 November 09, 2020 10:12PM

Check your DISC settings . . . .

UtahRich 42 November 09, 2020 11:49PM

Rich, the Equinox 800 is also on my 'good-pick' list, as long as ...

Monte 40 November 10, 2020 12:18AM

Vanquish

OregonGregg 47 November 10, 2020 05:53AM

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D&P-OR 32 November 10, 2020 08:41PM

Re: Vanquish

OregonGregg 31 November 11, 2020 07:08AM

Guaranteed I'll have my good-picks around come spring.

Monte 41 November 10, 2020 07:35AM

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OregonGregg 38 November 10, 2020 07:55AM

Well, I think about the search coils, and .....

Monte 39 November 10, 2020 09:30AM

1000's of words response to Monte......kinda smiling smiley Attachments

OregonGregg 66 November 10, 2020 06:40PM

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Kickindirt 32 November 11, 2020 04:25PM

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OregonGregg 25 November 11, 2020 05:20PM

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Monte 32 November 11, 2020 01:27PM

Re: 1000's of words response to Monte......kinda smiling smiley

OregonGregg 38 November 11, 2020 02:59PM

Looking Forward to the ReMatch - Ali - Frasier

UtahRich 37 November 12, 2020 01:58AM

Like a kid on Christmas morning ... a smiling smiley and a sad smiley

Monte 30 November 12, 2020 03:33PM

Popcorn Time

OregonGregg 37 November 12, 2020 06:46AM

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EL NINO 32 November 12, 2020 09:39AM

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OregonGregg 27 November 12, 2020 11:22AM

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D&P-OR 28 November 11, 2020 10:18PM

A wise man once said (well, many times)

zincoln 31 November 10, 2020 08:12PM

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OregonGregg 27 November 11, 2020 07:23AM

Re: Well, I think about the search coils, and .....

D&P-OR 37 November 10, 2020 12:55PM

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OregonGregg 32 November 10, 2020 05:51PM

Re: What you give away here, you gain there.

D&P-OR 30 November 09, 2020 10:05PM

Civil War era -

UtahRich 36 November 09, 2020 07:14PM

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diggindeep 29 November 09, 2020 07:44PM

Fun finds Andrewsmileys with diet Dr. Pepper float N/T

Timbertodd 30 November 09, 2020 07:04PM



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