Thanks Druid, I am leaning toward the Relic more, especially as people upgrade to the new machines and the prices drop. Does Makro/Nokta still service the Relic if something goes wrong? I do see a larger concentric coil works on the Relic so that may work for park hunts, I do like concentric coils especially in modern trash. It would be nice if the new 7" concentric worked on it, but I am betting not.

Honestly it isn't like a new detector is magically going to change my opinion of parks, some people love them and I respect them for it, but I like old iron ridden sites where little to no modern trash can be found. The sites are full of square nails and bits of rusted tin and scrap iron. I may be better off with a different style of relic detector that can double duty for a park or beach hunt as that is a rarer hunt for me. I should choose the detector for what I love to do rather than what I occasionally do, lol.

I will look through some videos on the Relic and see if it is what I want. I know it seems to have a cult following, which says a lot. I could off set a purchase with selling some of my detectors, but like having some good detectors for differing conditions and as back-up.