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Joel, let's eliminate the 'Bashing' business.

July 18, 2022 01:15PM avatar
As for the FORS Relic. They worked up a pretty good unit, and when we were 'testers' to evaluate the prototype we agreed there were a couple of things to address. We shared that info with Dilek. She got it to the design engineer and Alper made new control housings with our adjustment and setting suggestions. They sent them to us and we agreed that all was fine and THEN they brought out the Relic to consumers. Not before.

Another thing I related was the number of detector models I have seen or known about from many manufacturers that were rushed-to-market before they were ready. Some kind of worked, but even when I was at Compass they sent some out and I stopped production because most would not respond to a Half-Dollar or big Silver Dollar. Hurried into production because times were tough and / or they felt they needed to get something out to compete with one or two other manufacturers. In this case, we knew The Legend was intended to go after the Minelab Equinox 800 at a better price, and they had it out to 'testers', but it seems too many testers didn't really use it and hunt with it to find the strengths and weaknesses, and there were some. Thus, the info wasn't conveyed to Nokta / Makro to make it right, and even on the manufacturer's part they failed to offer it with some of the features of the Equinox, such as Iron Bias.

So it wasn't a complete and thought-out unit plus the so-called 'testers' didn't get useful info to N/M to maker it right. Plus, it really wasn't ready for market and that is obvious from all the glitches and updates and problems from updates, so it was "rushed-to-market".

IF I would have received a 'test' prototype Legend I would have put in the time and effort to find all the goods and bads I could and convey that to N/M. The fact I didn't receive a prototyped 'test' unit has nothing to do with my opinions and feelings. I was supposed to or told I would get one but I didn't. Okay, fine. That happens. But I still had an interest in the Legend and that's why I went through you to order one as a Pro Pack to have the 6" coil. I wouldn't have got on the list if my feelings were hurt because I like N/M's solid build and I like the CoRe and Relic and Impact and Simplex +.

I was really interested in one and hoped to test one or if not get one. But things in life change and I cancelled the order due to $$$$ and preparing to move plus some expenses that came up to fix the place I was selling. Also, health issues I have been dealing with and now I am at the point I can't drive, my vision is struggling, and I am working hard to get enough maneuverability with a cane again again to detect a little. I have what I need and am actually going to be selling off my personal detectors, as I am near the end of being able to get out hunting.

Oh, one other thing, I did get some e-mail info from a tester or two who let me know they felt the Legend had some problems and that also made me want to hold off. Health just got worse.

I am not 'bashing' the Legend, just pointing out that in this modern era with social media, we have a lot of fast reports of good and bad performance and the bad seems to be most talked about. I do hope they get things worked out so they will have a worthy unit to compete with the EQ-800. But it is going to take more time.


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2022 04:22PM by Monte.
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Updated the update that fixed things and now there's and update before the ones to come. confused smiley

Monte 410 July 13, 2022 06:44PM

I do hope they get everything working well.

Monte 188 July 18, 2022 11:10PM

Re: I do hope they get everything working well.

jmaryt 228 July 19, 2022 08:08PM

So what did ya think I would say ??

OregonGregg 210 July 16, 2022 09:55PM

Just about exactly what I thought you would say. smileys with diet Dr. Pepper float

Monte 197 July 17, 2022 12:40PM

smiling smiley N/T

D&P-OR 209 July 17, 2022 05:22AM

Re: So what did ya think I would say ?? Pink flame Suit??

Kickindirt 240 July 16, 2022 11:58PM

LOL that XP Juice is some versatile stuff. N/T

OregonGregg 243 July 17, 2022 08:03AM

thumbs up N/T

D&P-OR 184 July 17, 2022 08:09AM

Re: So what did ya think I would say ?? Pink flame Suit??

D&P-OR 167 July 17, 2022 05:23AM

Re: Legendary Updates

Kickindirt 192 July 16, 2022 09:10PM

Kickindirt, about The Legend and my post.

Monte 188 July 17, 2022 03:01PM

Re: Kickindirt, about The Legend and my post.

Kickindirt 169 July 18, 2022 01:24AM

Joel, let's eliminate the 'Bashing' business.

Monte 281 July 18, 2022 01:15PM

Re: Joel, let's eliminate the 'Bashing' business. Yes please do that MonteBash

Kickindirt 244 July 19, 2022 01:54AM

This is simple observed opinion.

Monte 309 July 19, 2022 05:03AM

Got me excited............

OregonGregg 211 July 18, 2022 03:54PM

Thank You. All fixed, with a few other flub-ups.

Monte 253 July 18, 2022 04:25PM

Got me excited............eye popping smiley

UtahRich 207 July 18, 2022 03:59PM

ask OregonGregg ?? Why, he don't know much..........

OregonGregg 246 July 17, 2022 03:22PM

Re: ask OregonGregg ?? Why, he don't know much.......... Attachments

Kickindirt 214 July 18, 2022 01:35AM

Joel, it is Monte and not MonteBash.

Monte 243 July 18, 2022 04:19AM

Re: Joel, it is Monte and not MonteBash.

D&P-OR 237 July 18, 2022 09:38AM

Is that the answer??

OregonGregg 304 July 18, 2022 01:15PM

Re: Is that the answer??

Timbertodd 179 July 18, 2022 03:34PM


OregonGregg 199 July 18, 2022 03:43PM


Timbertodd 234 July 18, 2022 06:03PM

Detector Battles -

UtahRich 175 July 18, 2022 03:56PM

CoRe w/OOR . . . what else is there?

Monte 266 July 18, 2022 04:28PM

Re: Detector Battles -

OregonGregg 155 July 18, 2022 04:10PM

Del, it is never going to happen.

Monte 229 July 18, 2022 12:32PM

Re: Legendary Updates

SvenS 238 July 17, 2022 09:13AM

SvenS I mostly agree, and Dilek is their biggest asset. N/T

Monte 184 July 17, 2022 03:03PM

Re: Updated the update that fixed things and now there's and update before the ones to come. confused smiley

D&P-OR 321 July 13, 2022 11:17PM

No, Del, I haven't. My 'opinion' is unchanged.

Monte 310 July 14, 2022 04:16AM


D&P-OR 257 July 14, 2022 11:21AM

Re: Monte.......

Monte 390 July 14, 2022 01:37PM

Re: Monte.......

SvenS 240 July 16, 2022 07:21AM

Back to you SvenS.

Monte 160 July 16, 2022 10:45AM

Re: Updated the update that fixed things and now there's and update before the ones to come. confused smiley

desertsmith 270 July 13, 2022 10:55PM


UtahRich 267 July 14, 2022 01:06AM

Re: Updates

desertsmith 175 July 14, 2022 09:56AM

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