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Re: Thought on White's ... and some advice if they are listening

March 28, 2020 03:43PM
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Wayfarer
The V3i is a masterpiece of engineering design. Yes, it has some big weak spots, like touchy ground blance and laggy disconnected audio in disc mode, and is very complex. They are the pinnacle of complex detector design.

Sorry I have to disagree with you. "Pinnacle" of design, would mean that it performed at least as well as any detector available.
It doesn't.

1) It's recovery response lags way behind. I had one, and discovered 2 major faults. I invited Monte over, when he lived near me, and we tested it in my test garden. Recovery speed (between targets) is unacceptably slow. In other words, unmasking is poor. The design may be good, but the speed of their microprocessor or algorithms used doesn't cut it. Newer detectors that process the data faster are superior. That is the name of the game today, target separation and not necessarily depth. Analog was fast, digital has to "process" the data. It has to do it FAST.

2) It exhibits "wrap around". A deep silver dime (about 6.5" in highly mineralized soil) read as iron! Unacceptable to me.

3) Menus and sub menus. Very frustrating and confusing. I have a Nokta Impact. Every parameter selection is right there, up front, on the display. Much easier to learn and use.


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Wayfarer
The MXT will go down as one of the all-time great detector designs.

Totally agree with you here. I have one and will never part with it.

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Wayfarer
Keep the metal box, ....

Uh, no thanks. At my age, I want *light* and *balanced*. I'll give it to Whites on balanced, but not on light.

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Wayfarer
Focus on engineering and performance and less on marketing.

I think that's what we've been saying thinking That is where they have dropped the ball. They let their top engineers leave. It starts at the top. I Worked for Hewlett Packard. When Bill and Dave passed, the company started to fade. The same is happening with Whites. Ken White passed and that's when I noticed the fade.



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Wayfarer
Give us an updated IDX Pro with Mr. Bill mods straight from the factory. Give us an XL Pro with manual ground balance, selectable 2 or 4 filter discrimination, and selectable tone ID. And give us and MXT Pro with manual ground balance and ground ID number in all modes, not just prospecting.

And go the way of Tesoro and the Dodo bird sad smiley



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Wayfarer
White's there are lot of us pulling for you to survive. We want you to make it!

Good luck!

Remember when electronics started coming from Japan? Junk first, then they took over the market.
Then China made the junk - now even Japan has their stuff made in China.

The third world countries are coming up fast, now innovating and eating our lunch. They are hungry! We need to get on the ball again. Not going to do it unless companies hire the best and the brightest. Getting back to the founders of companies passing - when the bean counters take over they don't want to "waste" money on innovation and expertise, they only look at this year's profits. A fools game!
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Will there be anything new ... and useful ... from White's ...

Monte 379 February 28, 2020 07:04AM

Thought on White's ... and some advice if they are listening

Wayfarer 210 March 28, 2020 11:23AM

Re: Thought on White's ... and some advice if they are listening

NWCindy 169 March 28, 2020 10:14PM

Re: Thought on White's ... and some advice if they are listening

glabelle 181 March 28, 2020 03:43PM

Re: Thought on White's ... and some advice if they are listening

Sodbuster 167 April 06, 2020 02:23PM

My gut feeling (based on nothing really) is that White’s will be around for some time to come  N/T

Tony 183 March 17, 2020 04:58AM

I'd like to see that happen, but ....

Monte 261 March 17, 2020 06:27AM

Re: I'd like to see that happen, but ....

Tony 199 March 17, 2020 04:21PM

Let's give them a hand up, and not a push down

zincoln 203 March 17, 2020 08:02PM

Re: Let's give them a hand up, and not a push down

Sodbuster 183 March 18, 2020 08:42AM

Brian, a very kind and considerate write-up.

Monte 209 March 18, 2020 06:15AM

I'll keep carrying the flag as long as i have working machines...

zincoln 199 March 18, 2020 10:27AM

Re: I'll keep carrying the flag as long as i have working machines...

glabelle 180 March 18, 2020 12:31PM

Re: I'll keep carrying the flag as long as i have working machines...

OregonGregg 183 March 18, 2020 03:38PM

Memories

Remfire 174 March 18, 2020 09:51PM

Making memories in Lonesome Arch was a good start.

Monte 190 March 19, 2020 11:23AM

Re: Memories

OregonGregg 194 March 19, 2020 05:16AM

Re: Let's give them a hand up, and not a push down

UtahRich 172 March 17, 2020 11:09PM

Re: Let's give them a hand up, and not a push down

zincoln 158 March 18, 2020 05:35AM

Re: Let's give them a hand up, and not a push down

Tony 172 March 17, 2020 09:48PM

Here in the USA, White's IS overpriced.

Monte 200 March 18, 2020 06:06AM

Re: Let's give them a hand up, and not a push down

zincoln 165 March 18, 2020 05:41AM

White's nostagia

glabelle 158 March 17, 2020 05:01PM

Re: I'd like to see that happen, but ....

glabelle 151 March 17, 2020 05:01PM

Re: Will there be anything new ... and useful ... from White's ...

jmaryt 240 February 28, 2020 11:13PM

Re: Will there be anything new ... and useful ... from White's ...

glabelle 218 February 29, 2020 08:11AM

Here's How You Do It ...

Monte 241 February 29, 2020 08:27AM

Re: Here's How You Do It ...

jmaryt 206 February 29, 2020 04:50PM

No, don't WANT to see them croak. But, the real question is ...

Monte 255 March 01, 2020 08:23AM

Re: No, don't WANT to see them croak. But, the real question is ...

jmaryt 202 March 01, 2020 07:44PM

Re: No, don't WANT to see them croak. But, the real question is ...

Monte 204 March 01, 2020 08:42PM

Re: No, don't WANT to see them croak. But, the real question is ...

jmaryt 177 March 02, 2020 10:16PM

Fixing and making, basic education to technical education.

Monte 246 March 03, 2020 02:00AM

Re: No, don't WANT to see them croak. But, the real question is ...

glabelle 178 March 01, 2020 09:44PM

Your question and comments are spot-on.

Monte 212 March 02, 2020 07:52AM

Re: Your question and comments are spot-on.

johnedoe 134 March 28, 2020 01:55PM

I kind of agree, but at the same time disagree .at least a little.

Monte 138 March 29, 2020 04:38PM

Re: Your question and comments are spot-on.

glabelle 122 March 28, 2020 03:49PM

Stay Tuned??? I did that once. All I got was 'snow' or a bunch of colorful lines and a loud noise. N/T

Monte 174 February 29, 2020 07:56AM



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